Saturday, August 22, 2009

Well it took us long enough!

My thoughts on evolution are: As a word, It sounds cool to say. As a movie, Pretty dang funny. As a theory, As laughable as the movie.
People say religion is for people scared to see what's really going on around them (Or something along those lines), but all I'm seeing is people who are afraid to believe in religion. (not trying to convert anybody)
They say God is something man made up.
Well heres a question. How can you believe in something where in the title it says pretty much "this is a maybe". The "Theory" of evolution.
I have seen it disproved a couple of times but people yet grasp to it because I assume they want to avoid religion.
Peaple think that the idea of God (Or some super human man) creating the earth is absurd, but I don't see how it's any crazier than the thought of
KABOOOOM!!!!!
"Wow. Aren't we lucky that for some reason something exploded and life started to grow on it?"
I forgot when we light a match, start a car or bomb a country all we're doing is making life.
OH WAIT! No it doesn't. Explosions destroy life. So how does this big bang theory also work into evolution? "Boom were here so we'll wait a gazillion years till we become sentient.'
If we evolved from fish ... or whatever we were before, how come we thought it would be so smart to get rid of gills? You think in one of those evolving years we would have said "Hey without those things we can't breath down there." So you think they would have been smart enough to get them back atleast. Or how come we never looked up and asked "why can't I have wings?"
You know a while back I was watching... animal planet or discovery channel... which ever one. And they were talking about a shark. But not just any shark. This one shark had some spring loaded jaw thing. The people on the show went to a Theory of evolution "Expert" and he was facinated with this shark. He told the show that the shark must have evolved that way because he was to slow and couldn't catch prey...
So a spring loaded jaw was the answer? Why didn't it just evolve to go faster?
Well if you had seen the shark I'll tell you he wasn't going very fast but his trick jaw wouldn't help him much anyway, he still has a huge protruding nose. The only fish it could catch is if there were some cockey fish who were trying to see who could get the closest to the shark without being eaten. But since this isn't a cartoon I highly doubt fish think like that anyway.
The only way this jaw looked like it would help was so the shark can be lazy and scrape crabs off the oceon floor without having to sink any lower.
I also read something in a fact book that said something like: "The next thing we'll evolve out of is our little toe or the pinky finger."
Why did we get those apendages if all were going to do is get rid of them?
A question about evolution. Why aren't we evolving still? I have heard it's because of medicine, but what about people in third world countries where they don't have so much medicine? Or how about animals in the wild? shouldn't they atleast be evolving still?
How come we evolved from monkey through all those different homowhatevers and yet while we become fully erect humans we still have monkey? I mean even if they didn't evolve as fast as us what happened to all the homowhatevers inbetween? Now before you say "we have proof because we have skelatons.", did you know after finding one of these supposed homowhatevers these expert actually decided that it might just have been an old person who was hunched over?
As for skelaton shapes as in how the skull is so oddly shaped how do we not know that it wasn't just the culture that they lived in? People in africa extend their necks with rings why can't these people just put... rings or whatever on their heads to just misshape it that way? People do things like all through time for culture or because they think it looks good... like lip disking.
Well if somebody can sort out this theory for me I would greatly appreciate it.

"Lucky we won the race huh guys? Those monkeys were very close but look at who's in the zoos now. Second place: monkeys!"

T-G

3 comments:

  1. Well heres a question. How can you believe in something where in the title it says pretty much "this is a maybe". The "Theory" of evolution.

    This is, in my opinion, the biggest difference between science and religion. Science is a search for truth, religion is a declaration.

    They call it a "theory" because they can not prove it. It is the best guess they can make. It does not mean that the guess is random. It just means that they are deducing what they can with what they have. I do not see you mocking the Theory of Relativity because it is called a "theory". Do you want to tell the inhabitants of Nagasaki and Hiroshima to quit whining about the atomic bombs. Who knows if they really exploded? It is just a theory.

    Science changes. Some (stupid) people point this out as a reason that science is not reliable, but if something is wrong, you fix it. If you had bad information, you correct it. You do the best you can as you can, but you keep your mind open and ready for the new and unexpected. We do the same with our politicians. If one ever changes their mind, we call them a "flip-flopper". We say that we can not trust them because they changed their mind.

    Shit, we should all change our minds a little more if you ask me. If I never changed my mind, I would still think that Ninja Turtle action figures and candy were the most important things in life. We grow. We learn. We should never stop. Neither should our information, our knowledge, our beliefs. The second we stop all of these from growing, we have a religion—firm belief that will never change despite evidence. And somehow, people manage to tell their selves that this is a good thing. Sad.

    I have seen it disproved a couple of times but people yet grasp to it because I assume they want to avoid religion.

    You can not disprove a theory. The very definition of theory provides for the unknown. If they were sure, they would not call it the "Theory of Evolution", they would call it the "Law of Evolution" or "Theorem of Evolution"—probably the former, the latter being reserved for Mathematics usually.

    OH WAIT! No it doesn't. Explosions destroy life. So how does this big bang theory also work into evolution? "Boom were here so we'll wait a gazillion years till we become sentient.'

    This idea is just wrong. You have a very narrow definition of life if you think that explosions destroy it. There are varieties of plantlife on this earth that only reproduce in fire. When they burn, they release their seeds which grow when the fire is over.

    Furthermore, in experiments done regarding the origins of life on this planet, scientists simulated a meteor impact with proteins to see if they could survive, testing whether or not it was possible for life to have come to this planet via meteor. Not only did the proteins survive, they turned into peptides! They became more complex forms of life because of the explosion. In a laboratory, in an instant, these scientists witnessed evolution. And, it was thanks to an explosion.

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  2. If we evolved from fish ... or whatever we were before, how come we thought it would be so smart to get rid of gills? You think in one of those evolving years we would have said "Hey without those things we can't breath down there." So you think they would have been smart enough to get them back atleast. Or how come we never looked up and asked "why can't I have wings?"

    So a spring loaded jaw was the answer? Why didn't it just evolve to go faster?

    I also read something in a fact book that said something like: "The next thing we'll evolve out of is our little toe or the pinky finger."
    Why did we get those apendages if all were going to do is get rid of them?


    Not meant to be offensive, but this sounds like something straight out of mother's mouth. This is something that religious people say with smug looks on their faces, never realizing that it makes them sound really stupid. If you are going to question evolution, learn a little bit about it.

    Not since somewhen near the eighteenth century have scientists claimed that evolution was purposeful or pretty. It is random. The theory of evolution does not claim that we are getting better, that everything is getting better. It is only saying, that if in a situation, someone has an advantage, that someone is going to have the easiest time surviving. If one fish has one eye, and another fish has two, providing better depth perception, the second one is more likely to live and pass on its genes.

    That we have not evolved wings, does not mean evolution is bunk. That we evolved toes we do not need, does not disprove anything. That nature gave a shark a spring-loaded jaw instead of something more useful, if anything, demonstrates evolution and is a mark against God. If God designed us, then why do we not have wings? If God designed us, why are we not immune to disease? If God designed us, why the fuck did he give us a little god-damn toe or foreskin or an appendix?

    Anyone who says that we are not evolving is an idiot. Evolution as a process, takes a much longer time than we are even capable of comprehending. The several thousand years that we have been around are shorter than a fart to the earth. We have been evolving from apes for almost a million years. Try counting to a million. It is not going to happen quickly. Then, try imagining that many years. You can not, nor will you ever be able to.

    Also, to say that we came directly from monkeys or apes today as they are, is pretty stupid. I do not believe that science is really claiming this. What actually occurred is that we and monkeys/apes came from a similar ancestor. If you breed chimpanzees for a million years, you will not get humans eventually. That is not what science claims. What you might get are a few different species that all came from the same place.

    Every dog on this planet is a member of the same species. They all came from the exact same ancestor. Great Danes, Mastiffs, Weiner Dogs, Pit Bulls, all of them came from the same mother and father if you go back far enough.

    Labradors are not an evolved form of German Shepherd. German Sheperds are not an evolved form of Labradors. Both are an evolved form of something else.

    You could put modern-day humans and modern-day apes in that same paragraph.

    If you want some proof of this, there is currently research being done into neanderthals. They have come upon DNA of neanderthals and have so far discovered that there is no common DNA between them and modern humans. We did not evolve from Neanderthal. We just evolved from the same thing they did. We just went about it in different ways. And, like we still do today, a few thousand years ago, we rejected and destroyed what was different.

    Who knows, maybe this research will turn up something else. If it does, science will accept it. It will not hide it.

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  3. Pardon the stridence of my writing. I am much less serious than I sound. I believe what I believe, but hardly in a defensive way. I value my beliefs only as long as they serve me. The instant they fight against logic, I abandon them.

    If a car breaks, you fix it. If your dogs gets Rabies, you down it. Why can we not do the same with what we believe? What is so frightening about being wrong that we would rather try desperately to convince ourselves and others that we have always been and always will be right?

    Why this suspension of logic?

    That we might ever disagree is not a problem for me. I revel in it. I do not thrive on debate, nor trying to prove my point. I want all of us to disagree so that we might learn and grow. If nothing ever challenges us, what drive have we to learn?

    Kites rise against the wind, not with it.

    My only goal is more thought.

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